Re: [kraken] Just squatted - what to do and not tot do

Auteur: Stuiverstraat <stuivers@dse.nl>
Datum: 21 sep 2005 13:42 uur

In Eindhoven you should let the police in the first time, to check
that the building was not in use ("leegstand constateren"). If you
don't, be sure to be evicted. Martijn is right about squatters having
house rights at the moment they live there, whether the police can
check that or not, but if they can't check it, they will assume you
don't have those rights and evict you instantly.

Don't allow more then two of them to enter your squat, and indeed only
the first time and never again.
KSU E'hoven
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Martijn le Noble
  To: Kraken Mailing Lijst
  Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 12:25 PM
  Subject: [kraken] Just squatted - what to do and not tot do

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  The experience is that, if the police or owners meet non-dutch
speaking
  squatters, they will try to bluf their way in more often and also
the
  chance that they will try to evict the place has been proven much
  bigger. Therefore these short guidelines are presented in order to
  enhance that non-dutch speaking squatters know better what teire
rights
  are.

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  Make sure that there is a good barricade and that as many people as
  possible stay present. This because if the police comes, and they
want
  to evict the place without legal cause, then they need more men and
  equipment, time and money, and also are forced to do more illegal
things
  before they might get inside. If they can walk in easily, then they
  might feel more confident.

  If the police comes for the first time, maybe one spokesman can be
  outside. You can also await them from the window and do the first
  tlaking from outside. Check their apparent testosteron. It can be an
  advantage to let them in, in order to make them able to check that
the
  place was indeed not in use, but this is not nessecary. If you have
a
  bed, table and chair installed, you already constituted the house
peace.
  With having the house peace existing in the place, the police is not
  allowed to enter it without the consent of the people who live in
the
  place (or the consent of those who represent the inhabitants of the
  place). Even if the lock is not installed yet, they are not allowed
to
  come in, but better you have the barricade fixed (and all nessecary
  meassures finished to prevent them from coming in) to be sure.

  After this procedure, it is advised to NEVER open the door unless
you
  are absolutely sure that it is not the police, the owner or any
other
  official (like people of some service of the City) at the door.
Always
  check from the window first and maybe you can think of a knock/ring
code
  for those that may want to enter the place and don't have a key of
the
  residence. If it is the case that it is them (police etcetera), then
  DON'T open the door. Tell them you only communicate in written form.
If
  they might want to check out the place, for whatever reason, tell
them
  that you first want written notification of the reason for the
checking
  and demand enough days to find legal assistance and that you will
not
  co-operate with them unless these criteria are met.

  If they, (police etcetera) indeed have the proper legal documents
(in
  which the cause of entering is mentioned) then ask who is who, and
only
  let in the people that are allowed to come in (who have the legal
status
  that is needed to come check the place) and not more of them than
  neccesary.

  If you are inside your residence, the police is not in any case
allowed
  to ask you for your identification, for that is only allowed in
public
  spaces and even then, only because there was some form of not
complying
  with the law or if they have reason to expect that you don't have
the
  proper legal documents to stay in the Netherlands.

  If it is the case that they are present with a so called metal Sitex
  'anti-vandal' door, without any prior legal procedure or a official
  prior notification given by the mayor of the City, then also NEVER
open
  the door. Let them lock yourself in, call your friends, and also the
  police because you where victim of illegal 'deprivation of liberty'
(in
  dutch: onrechtmatige vrijheidsberoving). If you come back (from work
or
  whatever) and you got suprised by a metal door in front of your
  entrance, also go to the police and make formal complaint of illegal
  'obscuration' (in dutch: verduistering) of your private property.

  http://members.chello.nl/m.lenoble1/just_squatted.pdf

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